Bélgica: Cohabitation - Samenwoning contract
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Leyla Y.
26 Sep 2009, 19:12Cohabitation - Samenwoning contractHello there,
Is there anyone among you that can enlighten me about Cohabitation? For the moment I live in Belgium and with my Belgian partner we will apply for cohabitation. But still the cohabitation procedure will not be finished before my residence permission ends. So between,I wont have an valid identity card for 2 weeks of so. The first rule; they told us, that we have to live in the same address and we do live in the same address but when we have to present our documents and when they see that my identity card is not valid anymore, will it be a problem? if any of u has an experience or safe knowledge, I ll be so glad to be informed.
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Julie Daniel
02 Oct 2009, 17:49Hi Leyla,
What kind of identity card do you have now? Have you started the application process yet?
I came here from the US last year and have a Cohabitation (Type F) visa. When I began the Cohabitation visa application process they gave me a 5 month temporary residence permit (called an Attest van Immatriculatie (AI), I believe). It is an orange paper/card. Then they sent my paperwork to Brussels and told me to come back on the day that my AI expired and if they had not heard anything from Brussels then that meant that the application was approved. I was not able to go to the City Hall on the day that it expired and ended up going three days later, but no one even noticed. Or if they did, they didn't say a word. I'm not sure if that's exactly what you are asking but it is a similar situation so I thought I'd share it. Good luck!!
Julie
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this site will tell you about most laws...do it quick as otherwise you may be deported and then it is hard to come in again...
and if not mistaken...you don't need a visa, or any id card anymore if you have a Belgium partner..but it is very tricky ..you must proof also you have been together..and also if it isn't a fake partnership...etc..but this forum will give a lot of details...hope it will be a help..and that you don't live in Antwerp or area...as they want to make it tough around here for foreigners...outside the EU...but they also have special arrangements with Turkey...but it should be just fine...you may have to do a course to integrate..have to speak either Flemish or French depending where you reside...Success
Ferrie.
http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl/forum/forum.php?c=50&s
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Hello,
Thank you for the answer but fortunately we managed it without any problem. Now I have my orange card and Annex 19. the only negative thing is that in case I go out ofBbelgium, I am not allowed to get in again. this identity card is not sth so valid. But after 5 months, taking my electronic identity card, i ll be fine with going abroad and coming back!
Greetings,
Leyla
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hi i got the same problem...im from madrid and im going to belgium this december...ito visit my boyfriend and i dont know wats the best way so i can stay there for good cos im just allowed to stay in belgium for 3 mos. cos im residence in spain...so im wondering wats the best thin i can do to have a legal papers in belgium please anyone can help me....
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Hello Norliza,
Well if u are a spanish citizen, ur stay here wont be a problem. no matter which nationality u re, if u will stay in belgium more than 3 months, u just have to go to integration service(of the city u ll live) in the first week you arrive in belgium to declare that u re NOT A BELGIAN and u gotta stay here more than 3 months. But for EU citizens, this is nor a problem neither a long process. Though I had friends who studied in belgium as erasmus for 10 months and didnt go to integration service at all.Of course I do not want to misdirect you but as i said if u re EU citizen, just dont worry. if your boyfriend is living here, he can search it for u and explain in details.
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i forgot to say that u gotta have a logical and acceptable reason to stay for more than 3 months (education, invited by a company to work....)
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hi thanks a lot for replying i realy apreciate it....anyway im not a spanish citizen im just a residence here in spain im just new here in spain...but i got working and residence permit here...now this coming december i was planning to visit my boyfriend in belgium but we dont know wat permit we need to aplly for me to stay in belgium..he said that we try to apply the cohabitaion permit but im just allowed to stay for only 3 months in belgium..and i dont know for how long is the processing of that cohabitation contract for me to have a papers in belgium...and i dont like to risk my permits here in spain if ever i sstay too long in belgium for more than 3 mos waiting for the results of tht contract...can u pls help me or give me some advice cos i realy wanted to stay in belgium for my bf thanks....
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norliza defante
04 Nov 2009, 16:45i forgot to say that my bf is belgian whose living in ghent but he dont know anythng about permits...thats why im trying to know more info...thanks...
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Hello once again,
Well the first thing is that I am not a person who specialize these issues. I just know details about the process (as someone who lived it) and I must say that cohabitation is sth relative and so INDIVIDUAL. the procedure can change according to every other person. So it might not be such a good idea to make a compraison between you and me. I dont know ur legal situation in spain. it s better if you first ask to integration service in ur city in spain "what if you decide to move to belgium".
during cohabitation process it is always a big advantage to have a Belgian boyfriend or sb who has belgian citizenship. I read once sb else wrote it in this forum that the best idea to start cohabitation is to come here as a student (almost the best way), and to live in the same address with your boyfriend. i dont know how things go with 3-month tourist visum...normally u cant have a "domicile" with a tourist visum
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Leyla Y.
04 Nov 2009, 19:01and ur bfriend can go to integratiedienst and bevolkingdienst here to get more info for you!
H.F. E.