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I hve noticed a good few people posting that they are thinking of moving here. DONT DO IT!!!
I moved here in 2005 and I can honestly say it was one of the worst decisions of my life.
I came here to be with my wife and the mother of my son as we were unable to move back to the uk after we were married. As a uk citizen marrying a non citizen it is a hell of a lot simpler (and cheaper) to live as a married couple outside the uk for five years. I had never been to SA and liked what I saw when I got here. My brother in law had a building company here and offered me a position as a foreman (I am a bricklayer to trade). This only lasted about 12 months and he shut the business down. Since then I have been scratching around looking for work! Thank god my wife has had a constant job since we got here!
I saw on a post from a couple of days ago someone was asking about the anti-white employment legisltion that we have here. IT EXISTS AND THEY KEEP AMENDING IT!!! We started with B.E.E (black economic empowerment)targetting white men as personna non grata. Now we have B.B.E.E (broad based black empowerment)targetting all white people, male and female as being unemployable!! If you are a white male then stay where you are, you wont get work here! If you are a white woman, same rules apply! Unless you have independant financial means do NOT consider SA as an option! Should you be lucky enough to have the means then ber in mind that the thieves target rich white people, even poor white people are crime victims. I have been robbed at gunpoint three times in the last three years, had my house broken into twice and my wife has been hijacked twice!!
There are those out there who would tell you I am being a drama queen. Suit yourself!! I wouldnt take the risk! No doubt you are wondering why we dont go back to the uk? Simple. My wife's salary only just covers our living costs with nothing to spare, so where must we find the money to go abroad?
Hope everyone heeds the advice of someone who has been here a while and knows how damn difficult things are being made for us here!

  • Go to Sarfarraz Mukuddem's profile

    posted by  in South Africa forum 

    Thanks for that reply, like I said before, negative crates negative, we need to make our decisions based on positivism Mr Donald Hesse over there is bitter

  • Go to Sarfarraz Mukuddem's profile

    posted by  in South Africa forum 

    Love your attitude there are many views, mostly negative but then again a negative creates negative.
    i do not even think they will be happy anywhere #partOfTheSolution

  • Go to Donald Hesse's profile

    posted by  in South Africa forum 

    I was considering returning to SA following a long absence. Now I see that the corrupt, crime infested land has no future.
    "people have bad experiences all over the world."... This does not prove anything. The difference is that in many other countries, racial discrimination is not at the root of the issue. It is in SA.
    "learn about how far SA has come". SA has not evolved since apartheid collapsed. It has deteriorated in all sectors- crime, racial discrimination, unemployment, health care, academia, housing. Name a country whose "president" sings about his machine gun and who has been accused of rape and corruption?
    " race isn't an issue"- race is THE issue.."Black empowerment"... What a sick joke. Empowerment is achieved on merit - not by being black. http://www.info.gov.za/otherdocs/2003/dtistrat.pdf
    " so please give the country a chance, ". Who gave those victims of murder and rape a "chance"?
    "we WILL get there.".. not in my lifetime.

  • Don't be so negative

    posted by Deleted user in South Africa forum 

    As a young law student, I'm part of the future of this country. I accept that SA has it's problems but don't slash in on the web, people have bad experiences all over the world. Remember that you CHOSE to come here. People need to stop being so ignorant and learn about how far SA has come. I'm the new generation where race isn't an issue so please give the country a chance, we WILL get there.

  • Go to Bantle daphne's profile

    posted by  in South Africa forum 

    Hi.....reading your opinions is actually educational being very young,living in south Africa and being proudly black...here's what I've learned and please don't go all aggressive as I'm just stating my opinion....its not only hard for a white to get work in south africa its hard for a black person to,I say that things should be all equal right now and not blame whites or non-whites for being poor,or not getting a job..remember there might be people out there who have way better qualifications in getting a job so don't be angry if other people get jobs when you don't just shows they more educated..during the apartheid struggle the whites got more education then blacks apparently its because they didn't want any blacks to have knowledge of the freedom they could have....my granny told me once she was arrested with my mother when my mom was only put into jail for going to the shops can you believe how old my mom was she was 2months with no food just imagine that..worst of all your own people where the ones being used to come to beat them up and all!! I'm a born free but when I was still young my best friend lily was White and my step mom was white I was always looked at walking with a white person and they always explained why(just cos I was black)I speak fluent english and aafrikaans thanks to the people who fought for what they wanted.....but here's the tricky part!I am not proud of how things are now some whites still think they better then blacks,whilst deep down blacks are just terrified with not being heard and why they kill non blacks is that they stiLl think that non blacks are living life while they arnt...just because of their skin and let me let you in with a secrete the only reason why black people really kill whites/and usually steal from them/rape them is because they simply want revenge and I'm being for real cos I have family in high places including low places,and when I had a chat with some of the lower class they simply explained that whites caused so much pain to our black grandparents why shouldn't we do the same (WHICH IS STUPIDLY and HURtFULLY wrong)because there are good people out here!!talking from experience!!!only reason why BEE are being so stricked and all is because they are scared of what happened long time ago to happen again which might be impossible I hope!!here's the thing our parents/grandparents teach their kids to HATE whites/whites TO HATE BLACKS and I'm seriously in tears thinking about what happened to my family back in the days...here's the thing in most black peoples minds they havnt forgotten about the past and some stick to their words and they say they will make white peoples lives a living hell in south africa so I won't lie it is a living hell for some....really unfair I should say,and YES South Africa is actually poor don't see them distributing money(government)and here's another I'm not degrading blacks but honestly with out whites some blacks are nothing Why u ask......whites give blacks jobs etc whites arnt scared to go for what they want/job opportunities whilst some blacks are lazy and just lay around waiting for kingdom come so basically what I'm saying is both all the types of colours are all wrong so white are wrong for hating non whites and non whites are wrong for going to their power into paying revenge...personally I don't want SA to become lim zimbabwe...I wish we could leave evrything behind and become A REAL rainbow nation....I'm proudly SA and love it here living life to the fullist studying hard cos things arnt for free!!!!in life u might be lucky or maybe not!!!!MOVE to another country,or don't its either you've made it in life not because of the colour of your skin but because of believing and doing everything possible to get where u want to!!!Life is not easy, for all of us but its up to you to make it worth it

  • Jess Green

    posted by  in South Africa forum 

    Well, I didn't need to search long to find the "I hate South Africa" thread in this forum. There are pessimists everywhere online who feel the great urge to write it up.

    South Africa is awesome! You can say whatever you want about crime, BBBEE or any other problem that SA has. I'm a white male and never had a problem with any of those. I'm part of the solution.

    And if you hate South Africa so much, please, please leave. By your own admissions you will be happier elsewhere.

  • Go to Dare Jon's profile

    posted by  in South Africa forum 

    If anyone is considering to move to SA, you should defenitely check their national costume, --->http://www.wnationalcostumes.com/south-african/

  • Go to Donald Hesse's profile

    posted by  in South Africa forum 

    Having left SA many years ago because of its racist politics - and having visited the land many times, I now see once again a racially segregated society where racial discrimination is legal ( as compared with the USA) and there are the additional "issues" of gross political corruption, incompetence and mass crime.
    Despite the beauty of the land, SA is no longer a liveable country for those desiring safety and knowledge that the society is just and fair to all!

  • posted by  in South Africa forum 

    My poor sister cant get a old age pension because her husband opted to get his retirement pesion in a monthlay payment. At age 69 she stil selling food items in order to make a living. Mr phd maybe you know how the system work?

  • posted by  in South Africa forum 

    Oh and i forgot to mention that my poor sister is denied a old age pension because her husband gets a monthly employment pesion. She is 69 years old now and stil selling food items to be able to sirvive. So can anyone explain to me how the system works? Mr phd maybe you know seeing you in another country .

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