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Many of my foreign friends who live in Germany complain that Germans are very rude - or at least unfriendly.
Obviously, as a German myself I don't really experience us that way. But I would like your opinion: Are we really as cold as some people say????
central banks
dodane przez T Y w Niemcy forum
true, almost all the countries have privately owned central banks that disguise themselves as some kind of "national" banks.
but for the past 50 years or so, US dollar has been the reserve currency for most countries and they are in the process to dump the US dollar, so the magnitude of severity that will be felt in the US will be beyond imagination for most Americans. and when that happens, people will rise up.
population decline actually hasn't been a news for quite some time now though. they know exactly when the "Pillenknick" occurred. it's been downhill since then.
"Humans are born to evolve." and those who refuse to evolve will be left behind and extinct. some people choose not to evolve. it's not our (foreighners') fight, but their (Germans) own fight in their own land to keep their heritage. it's not their interest to evolve, at least not the majority of Germans.
you made an excellent point in earlier post that Germans who are fed up in Germany already left the country. and as far as I can tell, 2nd generation Germans and thereafter, are very well integrated in new cultures, they don't "think" like Germans anymore. I guess that's the only way for Germans to keep evolving. but Germany as a country will still be a shithole.
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dodane przez John Lovejoy w Niemcy forum
@YT
The bankers are a global problem not a uniquely American problem.
It’s an international cartel.Let’s separate something,
In the last 40 years, continental Europe/ Germany promoted and established multiculturalism instead of integration.
The idea was to keep the immigrants separate and parallel, in low paying positions, confined to themselves but not part of the host culture.
To keep the host culture untouched and as the established ruling class.
They never wanted integration in the first place and definitely no melting pot.
To put it bluntly they didn’t want their culture colored by anything foreign, thus the separateness.
This is what has failed.Those where political policies and the people where brought up in this mode of thinking.
As of late, the state faced with a huge problem of population decline and failed multiculturalism they kind of want integration now, but the people where taught different and brought up otherwise.
The immigrants and the Germans
The current Germans don’t have any anti-Semitic genes or are fundamentally different from other humans .
They are merely a product of the environment and the policies they grew up in.But yes I do believe all people can change, evolve, grow and learn from their mistakes, it just doesn’t happen overnight.
Humans are born to evolve.that's right!
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power to the people, seriously. you guys have the 2nd amendment just in case bankers take over the government and start dictating the Americans. and I'm afraid it's about time, especially now that the US dollar is on the verge of default.
I've lived in Europe, Canada and Japan, and I came to a conclusion that multiculturalism is awesome in countries that are willing to enjoy it. in Europe and Asia, people are not racially diverse enough to enjoy the multiculturalism in real life, it doesn't go beyond ethnic food. I do think Germany and Japan are 2 extreme cases though. they have the mentality of "you don't understand it because you are not German / Japanese" LOL ultimately they are the losers. given that they are both racists, I see a striking difference in that the Japanese are way more content than the Germans, because Japan is still very closed society. this has been quite often mentioned on stormfront forums, and envied by white supremacists.
disagree
dodane przez John Lovejoy w Niemcy forum
“when the time comes, they will turn to anarchy and violence.”
No I don’t believe that.
The ones that are staying are buttered under if not emancipated by an over controlling government and will continue to run along with the status quo, whilst being secretly frustrated , thus resulting this negative attitude.The ones that are leaving don’t care any more.
I mean of course they care about their homeland, but they are leaving because they know it’s futile the way it is at the moment.....
dodane przez John Lovejoy w Niemcy forum
@ YT
Americans have always risen up, it’s part of our culture and form of government
Our 2nd amendment grants us the right to be armed in part to guarantee equal power between the people and the government.
Spend one month in the US and then one in Europe (not just Germany) and you’ll realize that Europe is light years behind on racial issues.
In the US, theses days most of the race talk emits from the blogosphere, the internet and is used for political expedience more than often from the left, but by and large not a reality on the ground.
It’s an attempt by the left to immunize our president from all criticism, solely because he is an African American.
Since when is it politically correct in the US to NOT criticize our presidents or not hold them accountable?
Obama himself is not plying that game but the far left is.I am a part time musician and know for the fact that this is not true.
Especially in music this a totally none issue.yes!!
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@John. I like where it's going.
but I have to mention, and the US mainstream media controlled by CFR has been "promoting" urban (black) culture for example in order to create racial division. remember the 60's and 70's bands in the US? white musicians and black musicians playing together. it's all gone.
and the US government is letting in illegal Mexicans to create the division between the Americans who have to support the illegal aliens and Latinos, the legal and the illegal. and you are right, the Americans are rising up. the government knows that the Americans are armed, that's why they will take advantage of every occasion to confiscate legally owned guns. remember Catarina?
what you said is actually happening in the US. and people are rising up!
but back to the issues in Germany, I agree, Germany needs a radical change, and remove the usual suspects, CDU, SPD, CSU, etc first that lobby special interest groups in order to radically change how the government is run. it might be ironic, but "Germany for Germans" might be the only way to "unite" them. it might hurt the visible minorities first, but let's face it, it seems like the only way to make them happy. and if they can be happy, that's when they will treat people of other races with respect. and let's remember that they were forced to accept immigrants in the first place. and the immigrants were deceived by all kinds of irresponsible incentives from the state and lured into the shithole.
all this globalism has brainwashed us to believe we are all friends and we are all united and that fancy idealism, while they are robbing our sovereignty in each country, and we are losing our identities.
multiculturalism has failed in Germany, but it's OK, because Germany is not made for it, just like many other countries. it's not a utopic fix-all. but Germans have to realize it and change it, and change it radically instead of hating others and each other. they can keep blaming the immigrants and politicians, but unless they remove the parasitic parties that are in change of Germany and bring some kind of a revolution, they will run out of things to blame on. yes, they might end up with another Nazis, but that's what they've wanted.
it's a vicious cycle in Germany, but it's their country, they need to figure out the way to be finally content and be happy and be able to respect each other, only then they will learn to respect others. i.e., foreigners. and if all it takes is "Germany for Germans", then so be it instead of fighting it. Germans have to rise up and shout "Ausländer raus!" LOL we've all heard it before already. Germans, just don't give us mixed signals. if you don't want us, don't tell us, but tell it to your government. it's your government that keep giving foreigners the right to stay.
when the time comes, they will turn to anarchy and violence.
and if Germans actually want immigrants, then they have to willingly create the environment / infrastructure to accept them, no need to treat them like gods though, treating like regular human beings would be just fine. it would be a huge leap from the status quo.
thanks
dodane przez T Y w Niemcy forum
@Sabrina,
thanks and that's right. we know most of Germans are not intentionally ignoring our existence or stare at us with full of hatred. that's just how they are.
but if we are expected accept all the negativity we experience on a daily basis, just because that's how it is in Germany, it can be tough for some of us.
you have my respect for listening to us and sharing your positive attitude.
Diversity unites
dodane przez John Lovejoy w Niemcy forum
Something else
The shear amount of control, micro managing and state surveillance the State subjects its people to, is largely to blame for their grumpiness, negativity and occasional rudeness to each other.
Key word “To Each Other”, not just the foreigners.
They are just at the bottom end of the totem pole.If the US Government where to only try to implement half of that bureaucracy and control over the people, you can bet a nation would rise and march on the capital and many of them armed.
Because it’s our very diversity that unites us.
But that’s not even the point.It’s the German state that keeps people divided, by bureaucratically separating them into classes and ethnicities, even East Germans against West Germans.
Cities and small towns pitted in competition with each other
Because they know a divided people cannot defend themselves and negotiate effectively with the government.
Leaving them subjected as individuals to whatever bureaucrats dream up regardless how ludicrous and demeaning.I am not advocating anarchy or violence that would be self-defeating.
What I am saying only when Germans can begin to see themselfs as one people, regardless of race, ethnicity, class and location only then they will be able to solve the problems in their society.....
dodane przez John Lovejoy w Niemcy forum
YT,
Agreed, I just tried to explain, why Germany is advertising for people to come to their country.
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dodane przez T Y w Niemcy forum
I know, it's obvious in most of the developed countries. but my point was, demand for more immigrants coming to Germany should come from the Germans, and I mean the majority of them have to agree to treat the immigrants fairly. without so called Scheißausländer, I bet within 2 years, the old folk who hate us the most would start wondering who the hell is going to pay for all the pension and social wellfare?!? LOL
but the problem is, you know how it is for foreigners living in Germany. it has to be beneficial to both parties. for many immigrants, money is not everything.
population decline doesn't justify how Turks are treated in Germany.