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    Na, if you think it's the way you describe, you have not understood the initiative

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    Look, point blank, I'm not happy with today's result. However, it's not even half as bleak as you describe it. No one is ever going to be expelled on "suspicion". For all extraditions, a legaly binding verdict needs to be in force. The person being extradited therefore needs to have been charged, found guilty by judge or jury and having gone through all phases of appelation before he is extradited. So no reason for drawing any secanarios of foreigners being thrown out on mere suspicion (and our courts, if I may ad, are not really known for being highly susceptible of political shenanigans or having a Swiss bias). By the way, being extradited as a foreigner if you commit certain crimes is nothing particularly new and has been done already, so it's nothing revolutionary (the US by the way, does it too, as does the UK). The odd thing is that we have it now in our constitution and introduced an automatism (which I'm not sure will be adhered to in the final law that eventually will come out of todays vote).

    I also think, with this vote in particular, you can't say it's a general statement about foreigners living in Switzerland, as it was plain from the beginning that for an extradition a legaly definitve and binding verdict needs to be in force, meaning that it will only apply to convicted criminals. While I think it would have been better to start tightening the criminal code in general and not, as it is now the case, only singling out those not being possession of the Swiss citizenship, I personally can live with the vote as, unlike with the Minaret thing, it really only applies to those that have transgressed the laws by committing crimes and therefore misusing the hospitality of the Swiss. So in principle I'm ok with it, in detail, there remains a lot of things for the parliament to work out, soften and find rules for (for instance expanding the catalouge of crimes foreigners get extradited for such as financial crimes) and I'm comfortable that the end product will be much more moderate than it would now appear (as was the case numerous times before).

    So all is not bleak and I wouldn't see this as a particular anti-foreign statement as it really only applies in certain conditions.

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