Pubblicato in Svizzera forum
Is it just me or is it really hard to find some people in Switzerland who are willing to make good friends with you (especially to foreigners)??
I've been there for only 6 months and I heard you need at least 3 months to completely settle down there so maybe I've been there just too short...what do you think?
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reply to Davor and others
pubblicato da canuck s in Svizzera forum
I don't think you correctly understand what we (I'm not referring to the bashers, or the people that feel the need to swear excessively) are trying to say. In order to START a friendship, TWO (2) people need to meet, for a coffee, or a walk, or WHATEVER: But that's the thing, the Swiss grew up in their tiny villages with their little circle of friends, and very very rarely have an interest in making friends outside their village, or even leaving their village to do something. Maybe it's the city vs village mentatlity. I've met at least 30 women in the past 4 years, and tried to build up something substantial, but the fact is THEY DON¨T WANT TO: They expect the forgeigner to do all the work, and aren't interested in making any effort themselves. If it's true that they just don't like foreigenrs, ok, no problem, that's their right. But then don't get upset when we state the fact that it's hard to make friends here, when that's the truth. Swiss people just aren't very friendly. It's ok. Be like that forever, it's not like being open to new experiences would ever enrich your life. Problems with foreigenrs exist in every country, Canada has the same issues, but yet, Canadians are world renowned for their friendliness. We don't justify our racism, we don't need excuses to not befriend people. I have done my best to integrate myself, speak high german and swiss german, follow all the cultural procedures, respect du/Sie, everything, it doesn't make a difference. I'm tired of doing all the work and still being discriminated against. So rather than try to keep looking for one cool Swiss person, I'm saving up to go home. Really your loss, because there are many hard working, honest, firendly, fun expats that hve a lot to share with the Swiss.
I don't understand....
pubblicato da Davor Davor in Svizzera forum
Why the people who are bashing Switzerland and Swiss people think that everyone should like foreigners and/ or expats? Not everyone likes to live in a cultural melting pot, have you thought about it? Swiss people are very private and don't want to intrude and they expect others to be as considerate.
Furthermore, I have noticed on this forum that many people would open with the line "I'm looking for friends" line. To me, friendship is a relationship that needs to be built and maintained for years, and it's not something you can make for a day or two over coffee. If you have an attitude like that the country sucks and that all the people in it are bad,racist etc, it will be very hard for someone with such attitude to meet anyone in any country and eventually build a friendship.
In the end, I'd like to say that if any of you who are sitting at a computer writing pages after pages of negative things about Swiss people would go out in the real world and meet people, maybe you could meet someone nice and interesting and realize that there are people out there you might have more in-common than you thought.
Greetings from Bosnia
For one who said "The best thing about Switzerland is to leave it!"
pubblicato da Sagara Ruwantha in Svizzera forum
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pubblicato da reen sison in Svizzera forum
well for me german are more friendlier than swiss, they are more open..oh well we just have to accept how they are..
The best thing about Switzerland is to leave it!!!
pubblicato da Utente eliminato in Svizzera forum
As a foreigner who lived in Switzerland during 18 years I have only one thing to say to all those foreigners who are unhappy living there:
Just leave! it's easier to be happier elsewhere!!!
I moved last year to Hong Kong and I knew more people in one year here than during the 18 years I lived in Switzerland... And the most amazing part is that I met 2 Swiss nationals living here (real Swiss from Swiss parents) and they both told me that they wish they never need to go back to Switzerland as they were happy living here. I have an other Swiss friend who is living in Bangkok and he is also very happy about the fact that he left Switzerland to establish a new life in Asia.
There is a lot of literature in this forum giving reasons and excuses to the unwelcoming attitude of many Swiss towards foreigners, blaming on immigration and so on... It's all nonsense! there is no excuse for racism and intolerance! and no matter how many effort you put in trying to integrate the Swiss society, you will always be considered as a foreigner!!!
Although Hong Kong is one of the most crowded cities on the planet. I felt much less pressure from the people here than I previously experienced in Switzerland. People just let you live in peace and if you make some kind effort to speak the local language you will get an even better service than a local citizen gets! in some way it's totally the opposite to what I have experienced in Switzerland.
Living here I have one major problem! I don't have enough time to meet my friends and to join all the gatherings and available activities... Yet I will rather live with this problem than live in Switzerland again:)
still existing the comunity college in Zurich
pubblicato da Rocio Vera in Svizzera forum
hey guys i have heard about that exists a comunity college where the german classes are for free from migrants with documents, or with outh them.
do you know something about this. this is the site. www.schuel.ch it is all in german! and i dont know if is true or not.
than you so much!not easy for us
pubblicato da reen sison in Svizzera forum
i know this feeling, cause ur not the only one who has this feeling about swiss people.
mostly if i talk to some swiss people they would look at you strange, and if i make a conversation its like just one question one answer no conversation at all. i guess they prefer to be alone and do there headmusic.even at my work, i noticed i am bored at work, since my boss is a swiss, he said he prefers to just work and no conversation. so weird..
do not agree
pubblicato da Daniel L in Svizzera forum
Incorrect!! This may have been true 30 years ago but now the Swiss are very wary of any foreigner regardless of their nationality....due to the huge influx of immigrants. It is a natural process: any nation will feel their way of life threatened when too many people come into their country ......