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    @Anna Hansen
    In retrospect, I probably should have opened another thread about German wages and unemployment shenanigans .
    5,- Euro the hr is ( frequently paid to experienced people for jobs requiring skill ) is an insult to a working adult trying to make a living, especially considering the massive taxation and many funny fees like GEZ and so on .
    The problem in Germany is more the state than the people.
    They are the ones creating these miserable and hopeless conditions for too many by permitting and encouraging this exploitation , putting people at odds with one another.
    In no other western nation are people that afraid of foreigners taking their 4, - the hr jobs with unpaid but expected overtime.

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