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    Are Chinese guys uptight or just shy?

    posted by  boh tuan in China forum 

    Hi Daniel Otero,

    Firstly, I am glad that we can "agree to disagree". In a nutshell, there arose two issues from the extrovert person. You praised him for his success, and admired his personality. I also admired his success, but look down on his behavuor with disdain. So we agreed on 50% and disagreed on the other 50%. So let it be, and let us have a beer to celebrate if we ever meet somewhere in China.

    BTW you are stationed in Zhejiang -- near Wenzhou or Hangzhou or which city or town? I go to Hainan at least twice a year sometimes three. I usually go in the month of Feb and Sept when the weather is cooler.

    The 24-year olds I met in Hainan appears more matured and speak with ease as compared with what you described in Zhejiang. Of course I am talking of the 24-year olds in Hainan talking in Mandarin or Hainanese. In Hainan, not many students can afford to go study overseas.

    So far I have not felt or known of any social constrains when in Hainan. In fact one day I was having coffee with a few Singaporeans in a not so clean local coffee shop where a cup of coffee costs 1.00 RMB (equal Singapore 21 cents), one of the locals told his friends in a very loud voice to say their Government is going to give them each serveral hundred RMB. One of his friends replied in also very loud voice to say something like this " what is that compared to the Singapore government giving to their citizen S$ 1,300.00 per person" That year Singapore government gave each citizen an one-off SGD 1,300.00. For your info, there is quite a large Hainanese diaspora in Singapore, Malaysia, and Thailand. Some of these people often went back to visit Hainan. I supposed there were not many people from Zhejiang province emigrated to the said countries in the late 19th century or earlier 20th century. Hence they don't have much contact with relatives and friends from overseas.

    Of course in Hainan, the Internet is controlled. Even Google has caved in.
    Here I agree with the China government, otherwise there will be anarchy.
    Even Singapore where I reside, after opening up 50 years from British colonial rule, still has to retained the ISD to keep the peace. Even in England or America, there is still a law on Treason on which a person can be charged, am I correct to say?

    China will take its slow time to slowly open up the country for sure, but not at a rate to be pressured by other countries. Just a reminder; China is still a Communist country. It is a irony that two Germans (or Prussians) Karl Marx, and Friedrich Engels started the Communist Movement; it ended up China and Russia practised it.

    Your new friend,
    Boh Tuan

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