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Discrimination and Racism in the Netherlands

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After reading an article this morning, I needed to get input from people actually living in the area. The article was discussing European countries and Anti Islamic sentiment. In the article in mentioned a political group in the netherlands that was in the same neo nazi mind set that a ethnic group should be set apart and monitared. I became very disheartened because we've been considering a move to the Netherlands for a long time. We are fed up with U.S. government and culture, and one of our biggest issues is the ignorance and intolerance to different culture and religion. So my question is how often do you honestly come across this kind of social ignorance in day to day life, and how much is it a part of the politics of the day??

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  • Go to Rodrigo Salvaro's profile

    posted by  in Netherlands forum 

    I have knowen such stories, coffee is a sort of drug..u take a doze and go beat them up Can this discrimination stand a man?

  • posted by  in Netherlands forum 

    I know this story, It is about mensen in Friesland, looks like a corruption case For me Friesland always was a strange place . They dont like foregners there, but what they do to foreign women there is unbelivale. This should change

    in internet there are lots of warnings for women who date men in dating sites about this story, as it is now new woman was abused by the same man in Drachten. The same man brings foreign women from dating sited , ilosates them and abuses. As I see it is obvious discrimination of russian and east european women. Admin of the petition.org site is looking for these women to collect information and support petition to the Ministry of Justice. Police is informed. It looks like a eastern vrouw handle case. But the attitude of authorities shows obvious disrimination.

    quote from the american site http://www.asktheloveforum.com/relationship-forum/showthread
    .php?t=9214 : THIS IS A WARNING to all those who may have been in contact with the man of Drachten, Netherlands. Having assualted his last 4 female partners having met them on dating sites, I feel all must be warned.

    This petition is for all to read and needs your support.

    www.change.org/petitions/justice-and-women-s-rights-in-frisl
    and-netherlands

    I do believe women in Frisland should stand against home abuse

  • Go to Irina M's profile

    posted by  in Netherlands forum 

    yes, there were 2 times blijf huis outplacing.Once by police car , another time by friends, and the recognition as a victim of huislijke geweld. Ofcourse the man immediatelly asked to send her away without a child calling all this story a lie. BUT!!!! he is still capable to go on...and the child is by him, as he stayed in the house

    so for the society it is good to leave the child with the man who beats women!!!Nonsense

    and this could be all a lie, but Police was again in the house, as new gf of this man asked for protection. He is not divorced yet, and already keeps beating again...This I can not understand! Thats a full nonsense case, against the sense of logic and our believes in democracy and law enforcement. I can not say they re all corrupt and thats the reason, so I can only make a guess that is discrimination, thats why he beats women and always stys free to beat the next one

    I dont think that all women can be warned ahead. Why police doesnt warn people, why dont they have a list of men who beat women again and again, like serial abusers...it is not fair not to warn !!!

  • Ton Bakker

    posted by  in Netherlands forum 

    What I don't understand, she didn't ask for legal assistance, there are special guarded houses,like Blijf van mijn Lijf Huizen.And if it also is human trafficing, she can apply for a B9 staying permit.
    But first , get legal aid.

  • Go to Irina M's profile

    posted by  in Netherlands forum 

    yep, difficult to give a proof...so lets aprove! :)

    thats discrimination. Would you like your daughter to be beaten and used? and her child to be given to the man who beaten her to grow the kid up into a perfect abuser!?
    somthing is not matching in the attitude of the authorities in this case with one man beating one woman after another! what could be the reason for them to be blind? I dont say they are corrupt...:) I do believe they just discriminate. It is easier to close eyes if smth can not be proven and call women-outsiders the " traumatized problem makers". It is difficult to give a proof... so lets aprove!

    interesting if these traumatised problem makers were traumatised before they met this perfect abuser , or he deliberatly searching for the ones who gonna be called traumtised problem makers to avoid responsibility? How come last 3 traumatised problem makers were not Dutch , but slavic women, how come society in Frisland immediatelly accepts their role pf traumatised problem makers asap when abuser has had enough and wants a new go?! How come he is chosen to be a role model for a growing child? Is that the way Society in nederlandse wants the kids to be grown up?! Interesting logo for a kindergarden "Bring a woman from Slavic country, abuse her, use, destroy, and bring a new one!". Nazi's were growing their kids like that. They never throught that was discrimination

  • Ton Bakker

    posted by  in Netherlands forum 

    Basterds you'll find in any country.I did dig in the story, and some attacks she mentioned on the Russian site, did just not happen on the place and months she stated.That doesn't mean I don't believe her story, I can understand the reason to change the time and places.Just for safety.
    Domestic violence has nothing to do with nationality, it just is difficult to proof who started the abuse.Often neighbours or family contact the police, because the victims are afraid to go to the police.

  • Go to Irina M's profile

    posted by  in Netherlands forum 

    I do know there is a disrimination in Netherlands behind the doors and with a smile at the facade.

    What would you say if you 've been told that there was a man in Netherlands who was constantly bringing foreign women from abroad, beating them to the point of police involvement, and then the same man was throwing them away, taking away kids or money and he was always free for his next victim?

    How is IND tracing such men? How does the police deal with them? Seems like nothing is being done.
    Would that be the same if these women were Dutch!? I doubt so. Then Dutch society doesnt tolerate the home violence against women and kids, but as long as these women are buitenlanders , they are just removed away from this man, and he keeps going with his abuse beliving in himself! Watch your daughters!

    http://www.change.org/petitions/justice-and-women-s-rights-i
    n-frisland-netherlands

  • Ton Bakker

    posted by  in Netherlands forum 

    It doesn't bother me you criticise NL. we Dutch do it all the time.Spain, Portugal , England and NL have a lot in common; our ships discovering the world, and trade with unknown , strange countries.
    And NL and Spain have also a fighting history, we still sing about it in our National Anthem., all about 450 yr ago.And we all have a colonial history with black pages, Spain and UK especially.And Slavery history too.
    I will be the last to say, we are superior to anyone. Everybody is equal, but it of course doesn't mean I have to like everybody. I have traveled a lot, and I know countries I won't visit again, even if the holiday was a present.I love China, the Bedouin in the Sinai I stayed with, people and country of New Zealand.And Spanish culture and architecture. Heck , we have 3 Calatrava Bridges in Hoofddorp!
    About Football; the quality of Barca is thanks to Cruyff and van Gaal,and the best players in the major teams are of course Dutch.lol.
    I don't think you are a Barca or RM fan......
    So enjoy yourself, and hopefully you meet the right Dutchies...

  • Ton Bakker

    posted by  in Netherlands forum 

    Could you explain , if you want by email. what the problem is about the insurance, Pregnancy, birth,midwife and check ups are in every basic healthinsurance package, without payment xtra.Only the after birth mother/baby homecare you have to pay a supplementary fee.
    Of COURSE I disagree with you, our scientists are invited to give lectures at all famous Universities all over the world, we have Astronauts, our pride is the spacetravel of Andre Kuipers , our second astronaut on his 2nd flight.Dutch archtects make the drawings for the new Beijing Airport and more enormous project is China and HK.Dutch heavy duty transport and towing is world famous, f.e. with the Oil disaster in the USA, the call Mammut for help.So see the bright side of NL.Our flowers, plants , cheese , beer,and vegetables go all over the world.Cheers.
    Have a nice weekend, greetings , Ton

  • Ton Bakker

    posted by  in Netherlands forum 

    I think you have bad experiences, but in general,and also depending where you live, I totally disagree with your remarks. Medical care in NL is , compared to f.e.UK is very good.
    Economically NL is top of Europe, also in Science and Universities.
    quote;
    Multicultural is something you have to be proud of ( Advertisements in tram Amsterdam). You can have a example of USA London, Germany etc...==haha, I dont'know where your info comes from, but Germany and UK [especially Greater London] has a huge problem with racism and overcrowded quarters with only foreigners.German people are historically not fond of foreigners, perhaps you should dig into history books??
    Why did you come to NL, and what holds you back to move to one of the perfect countries you mention?

    Discrimination is often a personal feeling; if you ,from your point of view are excluded from social contact with Dutch, perhaps you should open up, and discuss it with Dutch. If you have a prejudice opinion, you will never fit in anywhere.

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