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    Joao Pedro

    posted by  Belinda Angelino in Portugal forum 

    So you have good friends who are in the Army-Afghanistan and another one in fashion industry. Perhaps some modelling or singing? You don't see any pattern there, do you?
    This thread is about highly qualified brains, without any connection to recreational activities nor wars. I'm referring to Engineers, Economists, Lawyers, etc being able to be employed by Portuguese companies. That doesn't happen, my friend.
    Nowadays, it is possible to suddenly see some black executives walking around the area of Lisbon. Those are actually Angolans who go for business purposes or simply are taken in for short internships in Companies that have branches in Angola. A quick passage of black qualified people is what you see in Lisbon, unless they have liberal professions, whereby they are able to stand for themselves. No Portuguese company takes black people for contracts.
    The Portuguese still hold its pride of a coloniaistl. It seems to still need that status.They need to make sure that black people in Portugal are in a low position by not allowing them to succeed. Is there anything like achieving your dreams in Portugal, as for growing professionally and be embraced for self-qualifications without any sort of "cunha" in Portugal? NO! How about the human rights of this limitation. If you don't allow people to grow, if even with your diploma, you cannot get a job, let alone succeed...what is this for human rights?

    You claim that wherever you go, you will always find racism. True. But, there are some Portuguese abroad working on great positions in private companies aren't there? A mean, really prominent people who were taken in because of their merits.
    In Portugal, one should assume that a black person is unable to perform in high positions, right?
    And how about statistics some Portuguese "secretly" write to Brussels claiming that the reason why there are no black people in high positions in Portugal is because they rarely exist, because they tend to drop school before University? Do you know how many black Portuguese or Immigrants have even PHD are continuously denied entrance for a job?
    Portugal is not a market economy, the rules are not those of free market, of meritocracy nor even a sample of it. Portugal is a place where first comes race, then comes afinity. You need to have afinity with the employer in order to get a job, to succeed...and you João, know that. You are simply defending Portugal out of emptiness. You probably saw more efficient markets to what concerns employment and just are trying to believe Portugal is the same. I know the feeling. I have been travelling around for years now. Whenever I talk to people, I tend to think that I am representative of my birth country, when in fact, I have been influenced by other cultures since ever.
    I'm not sure you are highly educated but if you are, have been able to work in your field abroad, then decided to go back to Portugal, you know that there is racism in your company, that black people have their place at the back door and that fact actually puts you in a higher position even though you could have been just a regular guy abroad. That feeling of superiority is something that the Portuguese do not seem to want to leave behind in respect to black people. And you know what's the excuse when people like me point out how this is wrong? The Portuguese respond that it is not our country so we should accept how we are treated: as servers and cleaners. That's the only treatment you have to offer. Did you know that this excuse was used in the 60 in the UK? But then, every country has something lke art. 13 of the Portuguese Constitution. No, you should not discriminate in whatever manner.

    About the guettos that are allowed to grow in Portugal, well, by definition, guettos are build as a consequence of marginalization. If you segregate people, not only they need means to survive but they always get frustrated as soon as they realise they are outcasts of the society, pure marginals. If you were the outcast in your family or any community you were involved with, you'd naturally become a rebellious unless you had any kind of hope. The only hope those people living in Lisbon guettos have is to be able to work for McDonalds.

    Yes, Portugal needs more money right now. How about reducing the stupid bureacracy so it becomes as attractive as Bulgaria? Also here, the Portuguese need to NOT LET GO of the "who is in charge?" mentality. Blocking everything possible, oppressing everybody, pretending that it needs courage to be happy in this world.

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